Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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I also wouldn't use V1 or V2 since I'm way too high in runes/boosts for these
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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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seboka hat geschrieben: Do 17. Okt 2019, 17:59 I also wouldn't use V1 or V2 since I'm way too high in runes/boosts for these
Correct, think of leveling as a Wave Pattern UP to 500 DOWN then UP to 1000 DOWN then UP to 2500 DOWN then UP to 5000 DOWN then UP to 10000

You can hit levels 1-500 fairly quickly, but the period from 500-1000 everything slows down, and therefore BreakPoint Strategy is no longer optimal from 500-1000.
However, once you can hit 1000 quickly it can become optimal again.

Fast Build is a slow average across all strategies, but it is very predictable.

The best strategy from 500-1000 could be "Amortization" based on your TIME Intervals you choose to sacrifice.

For 500-1000 and 1000-2500 I use a combination of Fast Build and Amortization based on the TIME Intervals I use to sacrifice.

I do not use percentage because it is variable based on how many runes you've acquired and SLOWS Dramatically once you hit sextillion/septillion until you can build 2500 across all 10 buildings again.

For Non-Shroomers ... this is a VERY SLOW BURN

Again, the best strategy for all players is a combination of BreakPoint then Fast/Amortization with MANUAL ENTRIES (100 intervals) and TIME SACRIFICES (1 minute intervals)
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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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"MANUAL ENTRIES" While I agree on the need for this, please consider the following:

There are plenty of users, who want the bot to handle everything, while only needing to set settings once and afterwards don´t care about it.

The bot is there to reduce your work, so preferably I´d like to find a few great strategies and allow the user to set certain rune points, where the bot automatically switches to the next.

Additionally I´d like to inspect your strategy/algorithm on how you set up your next build path, because I might be able to rebuild it in code.
That way you wouldn´t even have to set those "manual" strategies.
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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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UnknownDeveloper hat geschrieben: Do 17. Okt 2019, 20:16 Additionally I´d like to inspect your strategy/algorithm on how you set up your next build path, because I might be able to rebuild it in code.
That way you wouldn´t even have to set those "manual" strategies.
I absolutely understand that MANUAL would be an optional setting for serious players. The same with TIME.

My strategy is a combination of time/amortization that changes every time I sacrifice my runes, and that change is based on time and amortization of the new rune amount.

This affects build time, timing of breakpoints, etc.

I would prefer this not be automated because I cannot predict values beyond what I have experienced.

I have to calculate the next sacrifice based on each current sacrifice and its not always the same math/algorithm as its more based on my personal experience/hunch/instinct.

Therefore "Manual Entry & Time" can be treated much like "follow the strategy strictly" where it is at your own risk and not recommended for casual players.
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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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It shouldn't be extremely hard to build all most usable strategies in the bot.
All you say is, your strategy is changing every x runes, so if you can per-calculate the strategy from now to the next break-point (if you have x runes) then you can also build it up with code.

I guess it's possible, that if you have x runes after scarified and a new strategy is needed to get better results now with the new amount of runes, it should be possible to jump directly into the new strategy.

See it that way:
implemented Strategies A, B, C

**ONLY EXAMPLES**

Strategy A: Usage from 0 runes to 1000
...
DETECTED THRESHOLD REACHED!
...
Strategy B: usage from 1000 runes to 10^6
...
DETECTED THRESHOLD!
...
Strategy C: usage from 10^6 to 10^8
...
and so on
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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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seboka hat geschrieben: Do 17. Okt 2019, 20:49 It shouldn't be extremely hard to build all most usable strategies in the bot.
All you say is, your strategy is changing every x runes, so if you can per-calculate the strategy from now to the next break-point (if you have x runes) then you can also build it up with code.

I guess it's possible, that if you have x runes after scarified and a new strategy is needed to get better results now with the new amount of runes, it should be possible to jump directly into the new strategy.

See it that way:
implemented Strategies A, B, C

**ONLY EXAMPLES**

Strategy A: Usage from 0 runes to 1000
...
DETECTED THRESHOLD REACHED!
...
Strategy B: usage from 1000 runes to 10^6
...
DETECTED THRESHOLD!
...
Strategy C: usage from 10^6 to 10^8
...
and so on
That is a calculation of %
With my strategy % is variable and Time is linear
So, I cannot execute my time strategy using "every x runes" ... but instead "every x time"
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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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Well all kind of strategies are possible to get the code to, it's just a more complicated work, than a simple all-in-one

Like a amortization one with automated calculation of rune amount and recalculating out of this a new strategy over new strategy is close to 100% automated by bot instead of your manually input when the bot should do something. Why doing something manually if the bot can just recalculating things in the background?
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Re: Setting Manual Target Levels for Arena Manager Bot

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seboka hat geschrieben: Fr 18. Okt 2019, 00:52 Well all kind of strategies are possible to get the code to, it's just a more complicated work, than a simple all-in-one

Like a amortization one with automated calculation of rune amount and recalculating out of this a new strategy over new strategy is close to 100% automated by bot instead of your manually input when the bot should do something. Why doing something manually if the bot can just recalculating things in the background?
Because I can't ask for a custom build when its always changing ... but it would allow me to TEST each strategy I employ on a daily basis :)
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